Short answer: Starting a podcast with no audience comes down to picking a format you can actually sustain, recording consistently even with imperfect gear, and being honest about what you're willing to talk about publicly. We started The Island Talk during COVID with zero plan and a lot of enthusiasm, ran it for years, built a few thousand followers and listeners across platforms, and eventually paused it when life and the business got busier. Here's what actually worked, what didn't, and what we'd do differently.
So you want to start a podcast, but you have zero audience?
This can feel like throwing a party where no one shows up, but don't worry, we're about to turn that silence into a standing ovation.
We started our own podcast, The Island Talk, during COVID with literally nothing planned out, and ran it for years before pausing. This guide walks through what we'd actually do if we started it over again with no audience, using what really happened instead of generic advice.
Table of Contents
- Finding Your Niche
- Picking a Podcast Format
- Choosing a Podcast Name
- Designing Your Podcast Logo
- Recording Your Podcast
- Citing Your Podcast
- Editing Your Podcast
- Creating Engaging Content
- Launching Your Podcast
- Promoting Your Podcast
- How to Grow With No Audience
- Common Mistakes to Avoid
- FAQ
- Conclusion
Finding Your Niche
We didn't find our niche through research tools. We started The Island Talk during COVID, when couples everywhere were suddenly forced to actually spend real time together and get to know each other in a way normal life doesn't always allow. That was the whole niche: couple talk, real conversations, no filter.
The dynamic did the rest of the work for us. Toni was the loud, say-it-from-her-chest, emotional, funny one. I was the "did he really just say that" reactive funny one. We didn't plan that split, it's just who we actually are, and it turned out to be exactly the kind of natural chemistry that makes a show listenable. If you're starting with someone else, whether a partner, a friend, or a co-host, look for that same kind of real contrast instead of trying to force two people into the same role.
If you don't already have a built-in dynamic like that, these are still solid tools for narrowing down a topic:
- Google Trends: analyze the popularity of keywords and topics over time to spot niche opportunities.
- Reddit: subreddits like r/podcasting and r/podcasts are great places to engage with the podcasting community and gather ideas.
- Listen Notes: a podcast search engine that lets you explore existing shows by keyword and topic, useful for seeing what's already out there.
Quick tip: define one listener before you record. Who is the show for? What are they trying to learn, fix, or feel? A podcast with a clear listener grows faster than a podcast for everyone.
Picking a Podcast Format
Starting with no audience is easier when your format is simple and repeatable. Pick a format you can sustain for 12 weeks without burning out.
- Solo episodes: easiest to schedule, fastest to publish
- Interview episodes: guests help with ideas and sharing
- Co-host episodes: fun energy, but scheduling can be harder
- Story style: high effort editing, usually best after you have momentum
We ran co-host, and honestly the scheduling difficulty is real, especially once the business got busier. But the energy that comes from a genuine talker/reactor dynamic is hard to replicate solo. If you've got that kind of chemistry with someone, it's worth the scheduling headache.
Recommended for beginners: start solo or interviews, then expand later.

Choosing a Podcast Name
Your podcast's name doesn't really matter as much as people think. Think of how many brands or podcasts you like whose name doesn't actually match what they sell or talk about.
We named ours The Island Talk because that's genuinely where it started, talking shit at our kitchen island, since that's where people always end up having the best conversations anyway. It wasn't a strategic branding decision. It just happened to tie in naturally with MAKAI's beachy, ocean-adjacent feel later on, which was a nice coincidence, not the plan.
If you're stuck, a few tools that can help generate ideas:
- NameSnack: an AI-powered naming tool that generates podcast name ideas based on your input.
- Panabee: helps you brainstorm names by combining keywords and checking domain availability at the same time.
Extra tip for search: if you're starting with no audience, consider a subtitle or description that clearly says what the show helps with. That makes it easier for people to find you.
Designing Your Podcast Logo
- Canva: a wide range of design templates, including logo templates, that you can customize.
- Looka: an AI-powered logo design platform that provides personalized logo options and easy customization.
- Hatchful by Shopify: a free online logo maker offering templates for different purposes, including podcast logos.
Design note: keep your cover art readable at small sizes. Most people see it as a tiny square on their phone.
Recording Your Podcast

We had an advantage most people starting out won't have: Patt runs a production company, so we had real mics, lighting, and camera equipment from day one, recording everywhere from our own home to actual podcast studios.
Even with that head start, we still hit real problems. We started shooting on Sony A7III cameras, which have a hard 30-minute recording limit, a dealbreaker for a talk format that regularly ran longer than that. We eventually had to upgrade to cinema cameras just to stop losing footage mid-conversation. If you're shooting video alongside audio, check your camera's recording time limits before you're mid-episode and it cuts out on you.
If you're starting without dedicated gear, here's what actually gets people going:
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Smartphone: most phones have built-in voice recording apps that work fine to start. Find a quiet space, hit record, and start talking.
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Computer with a built-in microphone: paired with free software like Audacity or GarageBand, this is a perfectly good starting point.
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USB microphone: something like a Blue Yeti or Audio-Technica ATR2100x-USB if you want a real step up in audio quality without much added complexity.
Quick audio win: record in a room with soft surfaces (rugs, curtains, couch) and keep your mouth the same distance from the mic the whole time.
One thing nobody tells you about a video podcast: you're on camera constantly, every week, for years. Toni has fair skin and has always used self tanner to stay camera-ready between episodes rather than relying on the sun, and for years before that leaned on spray tans too when she wanted a deeper color for a specific shoot. If you're filming regularly and want to know what that actually looks like, our guide on the best self tanner for fair and pale skin covers exactly her situation, and our breakdown of spray tanning basics covers the option she used before self-tanning became her go-to. You can browse the full self tanner collection if you're curious what she actually uses now.
Citing Your Podcast
The simplest way to cite a podcast is to include the following information:
- Podcast Title: the name of the podcast.
- Episode Title (if applicable): if the specific episode has a title, include it.
- Host(s) or Creator(s): the names of the people who make the podcast.
- Publication Date (if available): the date the episode was published.
- Podcast Website or Platform: where you found the podcast.
- URL (if available): the web address where it's located.
By including these details, you're giving credit to the podcast and its creators, just like when you mention a book's author and title.
Editing Your Podcast
We edited everything ourselves in Adobe Premiere and Adobe Audition, both for the video and the sound. It gave us full control, but it's real work, especially on top of running a growing business.
Eventually we found podcast-specific apps that could handle a lot of the clip editing automatically, which helped, but even with that assist it was still a meaningful time investment. If you're starting out and don't have a production background, don't underestimate how much time editing actually takes, even with tools helping.
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Use editing software: free options like Audacity or GarageBand are a fine place to start if you're not ready to invest in Premiere/Audition.
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Import your recording and cut out mistakes or parts you don't want.
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Add music or effects if you want them, and balance the volume between your voice and anything added.
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Export as an audio file, usually MP3, to share with listeners.
Beginner tip: do not try to edit perfectly. Clean up the obvious stuff and publish. Consistency beats perfection.
Creating Engaging Content
The most engaging thing we had wasn't a content strategy, it was the actual back-and-forth between us. Toni bringing the big, emotional, funny energy and me reacting to it in real time gave every episode a natural rhythm without us having to force "engagement tactics." If you have a real dynamic with your co-host, lean into it rather than scripting around it.
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Know your audience: think about who's actually listening and what they want to hear.
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Plan your episodes: have an outline of what you want to cover, even loosely.
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Tell stories: real anecdotes land better than generic advice.
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Stay consistent: stick to a regular schedule so people know when to expect new content.
Launching Your Podcast
Finding a Podcast Hosting Platform:
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Research hosting platforms like Podbean, Libsyn, or Anchor. Consider storage space, pricing, and ease of use.
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Sign up and create an account.
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Upload your episodes with descriptions and titles.
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Generate your RSS feed, the unique link you'll use to submit to directories.
Submitting to Directories: we published full episodes to YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Those three covered the vast majority of where people actually found and listened to us.
Launch tip: if you have no audience, publish 2 to 3 episodes on day one so new listeners can binge. Then publish weekly on the same day.
Promoting Your Podcast
Our actual routine: we recorded and published 20 to 35 minute episodes twice a week. Full episodes went to YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Shorter clips from those same episodes went out on YouTube Shorts, Instagram, and TikTok.
That cadence is what actually built momentum, not any single viral moment or growth hack. Two episodes a week, consistently, with clips pulled from each one, is what got us to a few thousand followers and listeners across everything combined over the life of the show.
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Leverage your website: create a page to showcase episodes and make them easy to find.
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Guest appearances: being a guest on other shows in your niche introduces you to new listeners.
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Word of mouth: encourage friends, family, and listeners to recommend the show and leave reviews.
How to Grow With No Audience
If you're starting at zero, growth is mostly about distribution and consistency, not any single trick. Over the life of The Island Talk we recorded around 40 episodes and built up a few thousand followers and listeners spread across YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Instagram, and TikTok combined.
- Pick your platforms: we used YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts for full episodes, and Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts for clips.
- Make episodes searchable: use clear titles and short show notes.
- Ask for one action: at the end of each episode, ask listeners to follow, review, or share.
- Batch record when you can: we didn't always do this well, and it's a big part of why consistency slipped once things got busier.
Simple weekly plan: publish one to two episodes, cut a few clips from each, and share them consistently on the platforms where your audience already is.
Common Mistakes to Avoid
Here's what we'd actually tell ourselves if we were starting over:
- Doing too much without a plan. We jumped on and just talked, which was fun but not sustainable once other priorities picked up. A loose outline goes a long way.
- Underestimating the editing workload. Even after we found podcast apps to help with clip editing, it was still a real time investment on top of running the business. Plan for that time, don't assume a tool will erase it.
- Talking about personal topics before checking with the people involved. Looking back, there were times we talked about things involving other people without having that conversation with them first. That wasn't fair to them, and it's the one thing we'd genuinely do differently. If a topic involves someone else, loop them in before it goes out publicly.
- Letting outside opinions push the show in a direction that didn't feel like us, rather than trusting the original idea.
FAQ
How many episodes should I have before I launch?
Try to have at least 3 recorded. Launch with 2 to 3 episodes so new listeners can decide quickly if they like your show.
How long should each episode be?
There is no perfect length. We ran 20 to 35 minutes and it worked well as a sustainable, listenable range.
Do I need social media to grow?
It helps a lot when you have no audience. We used clips on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts alongside full episodes, and that combination is what actually built our audience.
Is The Island Talk still going?
It's paused, not stopped. Life and the business got busier, and we made some choices about direction we wouldn't make again. We'll bring it back when we've got something genuinely worth talking about.
Conclusion
Be prepared for slow, inconsistent growth, and know that it's okay to pause when life gets in the way. We built The Island Talk from nothing during COVID, ran it for years, put out around 40 episodes, and built a real audience of a few thousand across platforms, all without a plan going in. It's paused for now, but not gone for good.
Listen to past episodes at theislandtalk.com, or check us out on Spotify.





